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Planet Minecraft's Censorship

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I've gotten a couple submissions down before for blacklisting players and cursing. I could go on and on about today's society being hypersensitive, but I'm not going to because that would be too easy. It's still true, but that's not the point of the article. But Planet Minecraft is a child friendly site. Or is it?

Planet Minecraft's Censory of Cursing


I'm pretty sure half of the kids on this site use bad words all the time. Go on Minecraft and start a flame war with random kids on Minecraft. I'm pretty sure most of them will respond with cussing you out. How do you know the one cussing you out is a kid? You don't but the point of that little experiment is that you'll see cussing everywhere on Minecraft. People will bypass the filters to cuss someone out, usually replacing letters in the word with @ or replacing u with v.

I had a folder marked with the word for adult films on my desktop, then screenshot it and put it on the forums as a joke. I gave a lot of people a laugh, and I got a lot of replies pointing out the folder. Anyways, a month after that, I get flagged by a forum moderator because of it. I got a bit mad, but I didn't cuss out the moderator. That would just make the situation worse. I'm afraid this article will get taken down for just saying adult film.

I recently looked at a blog showing that the ads on Planet Minecraft are inappropriate. I tried the experiment myself, and turned off my Adblock. Yeah, I use it like the other 50% of people on this site. I disable it on sites that I support, but I don't really support this site. It still has a few problems. Don't even think about disabling this article for saying I don't support the site, there's no rule about it in the rules list. I checked, you don't have anything on me this time.

Here's a few screenshots of what it looks like with and without Adblock on it.

Planet Minecraft with Adblock
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Planet Minecraft without Adblock
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Do you see the difference? Let me point a few things out. You can see the side of her... chest area... and she's almost completely naked. The left isn't as bad, but look near the right-middle. You can see a beer commercial. There's a Bud Light commercial along with a girl almost completely naked. It's not my cookies, so don't comment about that. Planet Minecraft should advertise Minecraft servers that buy advertisement spots like Minecraft server lists do. Maybe advertise Minecraft YouTube shows on the sidebars, just like how you advertise What's Up in Minecraft.

I don't have ads blocked on Minecraft server lists. Why? I support ads that are like that. The goal of Adblock is to only allow non-intrusive ads. Go on Cookie Clicker, there's an Adventure Quest ad. It's not automatically blocked by Adblock because it's a picture with a few functions attached to it put there by the owner, and it's non-intrusive.

Also, a small suggestion. How about you put an option to put a rating on your content. If it's rated PG-13, which means it contains cussing or whatever else. Then the kids can't view them unless their account is 13 or more years older or if they got their parents permission. If they still want to see it, all swear words will be censored. This only applies for blogs, and should not apply to other content. At least add a FILTER
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Update #1 : by CheatSource 08/17/2014 11:46:46 amAug 17th, 2014

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08/19/2014 7:36 pm
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JWire
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They want monneeeyyyy!
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08/19/2014 9:01 am
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Iaeyan_Elyuex
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I have never played any MMOs like the ones advertized. Yet, when I had AdBlock disabled, my screen was assaulted by pictures of scantily clad women. I think that's inappropriate. I want to see Minecraft stuff, not... that.
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08/19/2014 3:35 am
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mcrocks999
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After me trying....
PMC with AdBlock: http://prntscr.com/4e9jji
PMC without AdBlock: http://prntscr.com/4e9jf2
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08/18/2014 7:00 pm
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Supernova666
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Your forum warning, nothing serious by any means, was not for uploading a screenshot with the folder for "adult films", it was for the inappropriate joke you made here, again, not for the uploading of a screenshot. If the uploading of the screenshot was the rule break, the entire topic would have been archieved and removed from public view, as it happens, that is not the case, your screenshot is perfectly fine and allowed to be uploaded to the site.

As far as I can tell you're arguement is now redundent?

As a last note, Paril explained on Skype how the adverts might work, he explained in GREAT detail (quite interesting as it goes), the adverts could be partially to do with your cookies, but if cookies are disabled or cleared, ad providers can work on the basis of "this IP has visited this site, so they might be interested in this", useful for information on targetted ads.

Edit: Look at Paril's response to MysteryOwner below.
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08/19/2014 1:04 am
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MysteryOwner
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I find that hard to believe, as my IP is constantly changing, yet I still see the half naked girls. I myself am a female, I don't go to sites that would even REMOTELY support that sort of thing. The only sites I visit are a Pokemon battle site, with no ads, here, and occasionally a YouTube video every now and then. If any of them use adsense, or cookies for my advertisments, they only show Minecraft/systems/computer related things, if anything at all. This is the only site that completely breaks that, and shows half naked girls running around. The beer commercial is there as well. So as for ads being based on IP's and cookies, that's crap. And I hardly take Paril's word to be true, as his opinions on things aren't exactly always informed. (If that's breaking a rule by not supporting Paril, then oops.)
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08/19/2014 5:32 am
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Paril
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(To help with the misinformation below: we do not serve ads via Google. It is a large third party provider that directly deals with contacts such as Disney and the like. Google does all of its advertising in-house [from what I know], which is an entirely different system. Also, I have nothing to do with the ads on the site; literally 0% of it is decided by me at all. I am a developer, nothing more than that.)

I wish I could sympathise but most of us don't get those ads. Right now I'm getting LensCrafter, IBM and jewellry-related ads. I've occasionally seen the crappy sexualized anime Flash games as skin ads, but there's not too much I can do about those ones.

(EDIT: I rescind the statement about not being able to do much about it; I checked out the site for the ad in question and it seems that it is indeed not even remotely in the target audience that we specified. I've reported it to the ad provider.)

If you can grab the ad URL (inspect element and copy as much of the ad as you can) I can report it to the ad manager, but that's about it. We don't have a "remove bad ads" button. I wish we did, I wish I could just pick off ads that I knew were bad, but we can't. That's the crappy thing about third party ads.

The ads aren't managed by PMC; we didn't check a "show 18+ content" box. On the contrary, the ad manager knows what our target audience is and that's what they try to serve, but you have to understand that the ad company is a middle-man between hundreds, if not thousands, of those looking to provide ads. Mistakes happen, we report them and they don't stay around for very long. While I'm sure the ad provider does their best to verify that the ads are appropriate, my assumption is that ads sent to the provider are given fairly base information about the ad (data to use, company contact, target audience/age, geographical target, stuff like that) and it is trusted by the ad provider (unless it seems shifty I would imagine). With the amount of ads that get served, there's no doubt that we have to understand that this is just the way it is.

Could you imagine if the moderators had to personally review every single submission and forum post before they went live? It doesn't work like that. We can't physically do that. The process becomes bigger than the support; it has to be semi-automated.

So, the main point of the post from what I understand is "Yeah I totally made an inappropriate joke, so here's an unrelated scenario that happens without PMC's control that shows why I should be able to make this inappropriate joke.. but why not just let us make inappropriate jokes even though I fully acknowledge that that kind of content isn't suitable for the majority of our visitors?". In which case, my response is because common sense.

@MysteryOwner, I really don't appreciate you assuming that a) we/I ban people for not supporting things we/I do (especially not me, to imply that I personally violate some sort of basic common courtesy) b) that you make a biased claim about how I apparently am not informed on the things I discuss without providing proof as to how or why I am not informed, which should be a red flag to anybody reading that comment. If you can point us to an instance where I misinformed people, I will gladly edit the post to reflect the proper information. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. I also don't know what "myself am a female" has to do with anything, whether to imply that men are inherently more involved in negative activities, but that's also a fairly sexist, biased statement that adds nothing here.

Now, I did provide a large explanation to Supernova, but all I did was explain several methods that could be used for ad targetting. I don't know what our ad provider uses, nor did I imply that our ad provider used any of those. I also don't know exactly what you're trying to imply about the ads; if they aren't based on IPs and cookies, what are they based off of then, in your opinion? They certainly aren't random, as I see very specific targetted ads all of the time (despite using AdBlock on most sites apart from this one). My IP changed very recently (when my brother came over a week ago), and I am seeing ads I have not seen in the 1 year of me having my prior IP. Yes, that's anecdotal evidence, but compared to "I always see these bad things and all of what you say is invalid", it's at least something that I can go off of, you know? It's a targetted, geographic system that is being applied to everybody. The providers down the chain don't have the information to determine the individual visitors' age, whether they are an admin/mod or not, female/male or not, or to embed ads just because of that. I can't explain how they do it because I don't work for them on their algorithms - all I can do is explain what I do know about ad management in an effort to educate people.

Did you not consider that maybe it is because your IP is constantly changing? You are sharing your IPs with possibly hundreds of individuals in your area, or even in neighboring areas/counties. If that information is being used for targetted ads, you are very rarely going to see information targetted from your machine. I, on the other hand, had a static IP for almost a year and was consistently seeing ads based on content I had recently, or even months ago, visited pages on. Dynamic IPs have a much higher miss rate for targetted ads if that information is being used.
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08/19/2014 3:29 am
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mcrocks999
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^ Exactly what happens to me.
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08/18/2014 3:35 pm
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Puretic
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I got no problem with those girls :3 Bajingas!
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08/18/2014 3:02 pm
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The Silver Paladin
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This site is why I got Adblock. Too many close calls with parents xD
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08/18/2014 8:50 am
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Butterblender
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Maybe ads should not exsist and everyone would instead get free money from the government
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