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Discrimination - Don't generalize Honey!

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This topic is wearing a little bit thin but after seeing a lot of blogs directed at this subject, I thought I'd weigh in on it as well! Please keep in mind this is entirely based off my experiences and my opinions.




A topic I have noticed that has been floating around recently is 'Girl Gamers' or 'Discrimination' in gaming but this stretches further than that, this extends to all those 'Agest' or 'Sexist' topics, people make such a big fuss about it all of it, but in my humble opinion...


Who cares?

I mean I'm not saying that if you have an opinion/You do care about this that it's any less valid but the way I mean this is more a case of:
Discrimination is found in all walks of life, this isn't unique to 'minecraft', it's in human nature, so why is this so special? In essence I know that it is an issue and I'm not saying it shouldn't matter or that no one should care but I personally think we all fuel the fire.




Learning to address things properly should be something we should all put into a little bit more practise.






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There seems to be a lot of blogs that out the other side however, a flaw I often find in these arguments/discussions is that in an effort to defend these topics and point out how 'unfair' it all is, both sides end up lowering the tone, thus linking back to what I said up there, we all add fuel to the fire.

By this; I mean from what I've personally seen in some cases, it all comes down to people saying "You are like this" and not taking into consideration that it's all not that simple.

You can't say that, for example "YOU ALL SUCK", kicking up a fuss and accusing other sides of the argument/discussion-- This is a generalization and that tends to give the other side a chance to reflect your words straight back at you.
Do not get me wrong here!

Yes, Discrimination happens everywhere-- Yes, it does warrant some form of discussion/change, however I for one would like to see more of a balanced mature approach to these arguments/discussions, I mean I often saw people in the comments on these types of blogs showing that they are in fact the opposite to whatever has been proposed;
there's nothing wrong with speaking from experiences,
however there is something wrong in my opinion if you generalize and in the heat of the moment you forget (and then vocalise for all to see) and lose validity in your words by becoming/stooping to the same level as your accused.

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Discrimination happens, and if it does, don't tolerate it but please remember that there are more than just two sides to everything, not everyone is the same way! It's more than just black and white, it's got (So much more than) 50 shades of grey! (Oh sorry I couldn't help throwing that in there haha!)

Take a look at these statements:
Both points could be argued at each other! :(

"All you older people judge me"
"All you younger kids don't understand"

"Girls don't know how to play games"
"Boys aren't considerate on how to act in game"

"Stupid Teen unshaded skin"
"Stupid Over Complicated over shaded skin!"


Just how many of you can look at these examples and prove you are the exception to each GENERALIZATION?

So in conclusion, it's okay to complain or address an issue, but don't start off saying something that makes your point any less valid by being a meanie pie, take a step back from ranting, take a deep breath and tell us your experiences.

Also to clarify, I'm not generalizing and saying all blogs are guilty of this, I'm simply saying or rather reminding don't fight fire with fire, see the balance before you rant, it's alright as long as you can recognize not everyone fits into these categories or small boxes we all set up.




Don't be ashamed to show people you are the exception to their words, and help people see in more than just black and white; show them there is beauty in both and all ends of the spectrum and what is light without knowing the dark? And vice versa!







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Thank you for reading my blog! I hope you enjoyed it, I know I haven't written one in a while but I figured I'd type one up for you all!
Please, if you have anything that you don't agree with or you think I could clarify a little bit better, don't be afraid to leave a comment below, I wish to improve my blog writing and make sure I'm covering all my basis I am a bit out of practise ect, but for now, I very much appreciate any feedback, see you next time my lovely teacups <3


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Pie_N
09/12/2014 6:05 pm
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"Show them we're all not meanie pies"


What did I ever do to you? D:
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CrumpetBobner
08/22/2015 12:42 am
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You tasted Great :D
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Scooter
09/12/2014 1:20 pm
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I see these kinds of Blogs as attention-seeking.

http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/minecraft-sexism-on-girls/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/different-types-of-gamer-girls/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/girl-gamers-are-no-longer-a-growing-issue/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/girls-in-minecraft-2670573/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/girls-gamers-are-no-different/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/the-difference-between-girls-and-gamer-girls-a-growing-issue/
http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/minecraft-girls-2310233/

I don't know if the're differences between these Blogs or not, Sometimes I don't bother reading them since they occur so many times. Sorry if you think I am a "rather inconsiderate person" but You should all stop making blogs about the same occurance. Life goes on, It's something we all have to deal with.

Yes I'm against people who are sexist, It's a game, People are mean over the internet. Trust me, I've been playing this game since "being scared of dark areas" was a thing.

Too many of these Blogs is what I am trying to say. It's annoying after a while.
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Hifey
09/12/2014 4:03 pm
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Personally, when it comes to blogs that are very few sentences and are on a topic that is over done then I can see your first point; but, I just wanted to add my opinion to it, there are many people on this website and they all have a voice regardless of the content of what they put up, however the thing I'm trying to point out about these sorts of blogs (Not necessarily the ones you've given in example as I've not clicked on each one) but rather blogs involving the nature of the topic discrimination is that people need to stop generalizing and realise what they're writing before any petty remarks or lowering the tone of discussion.


Effectively, I'm going to see blogs that argue their points and bring the other side down regardless of if the topic or how over done it is, I might as well address that issue and throw my opinion into it and to some extent, everyone has a unique spin on things, I personally feel that my blog classed the same as all of those blogs you gave as examples (I'm judging by the names) as it's the kind of thing that actually inspired me to write this blog, yes this stuff happens in real life, in games and over the internet but far too many people let negative experiences in game cloud their judgement and group everyone together.
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MayuriYandere
09/11/2014 5:36 pm
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TBH I get that you're trying to be helpful but you ended up being pretty cissexist 

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Hifey
09/12/2014 8:23 am
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I don't see at how I'm being cissexist, I addressed an issue that is based off my own experiences and opinions, I didn't mention the subject of cis, I brought in examples from what I've seen, I myself have never seen a CIS blog on PMC and so I have no place to comment on it in my blog.


Infact I'd like an example of where I'm being cissexist, because to the best of my ability, I can not fathom how-- In terms of my blog? I'm addressing issues I've seen float around on PMC, which is more about 'Gender', 'race' or 'age'.





I'm actually somewhat baffled as to how it can be seen as such, and if you come back with an example where it can seem that it has come across that way, then I sincerly apologise-- However, that was never in my topic of discussion, I'm actually trying to promote my personal opinion in that, it shouldn't matter regardless of who you are that you should:

"Show people you're not like the people that have hurt them; be brighter, better & nicer! Show them we're not all meanie pies!"

The intention of this whole blog is about not caring what people and catergories people put you in, to be where you are regardless of everything, to show people that even though there are some rude people out there, that you can be the exception, that you can promote balance in arguments and be the better person for it.



"Don't be ashamed to show people you are the exception to their words, and help people see in more than just black and white; show them there is beauty in both and all ends of the spectrum and what is light without knowing the dark? And vice versa!"

I'm sorry for quoting parts of my blog back at you, however it's in my opinion that you've missed the meaning of my words. I'm not addressing that issue, this blog is about knowing that although people have hurt you, not everyone is like that-- If anything, I feel it promotes Cis-- Because in essense I'm trying to say that: "Discrimination happens, and if it does, don't tolerate it but please remember that there are more than just two sides to everything, not everyone is the same way!"


I'm sorry you saw my words in that way, but I personally, disagree with your comment.
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MayuriYandere
09/12/2014 10:31 am
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I don't think you understand. Cisgender means to keep the identity that you have at birth. Cissexism is basically non-binary erasure. It's barely related to sexism. You never mentioned anything about them and promoting cisgender and cissexism as you just stated in your last comment is not okay because it will just end up adding to more opressors. The phrase "Show people you're not like the people that have hurt them; be brighter, better & nicer! Show them we're not all meanie pies!" Is very general and therefore shouldn't be used. There's a lot of blogs about gender and in 90% of those blogs OP Only addresses male and female and same with the sexism blogs.  All ends of the spectrum is very general and it could mean anything. Autism spectrum, Sexuality spectrum, etc. Let me clarify that I agree with the message you were giving, I don't agree with how you worded it.
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Hifey
09/12/2014 11:43 am
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I understand the term, but I also disagree the statement of promoting cisgender will add to the oppressors, I think what I'm trying to say that it's okay to be comfortable with whomever you are etc, and if you’re not then that’s fine too.


 I used general terms because it can apply to people in a situational manner; it puts the reader in a position where they can apply their meaning to it, it’s my style of writing.
As for the all ends of the spectrum I personally feel is a fine term, it involves everyone, there is beauty in all walks of life and that is the terms in which I’m saying it. I also use this as a common phrase in person, people are diverse, different and what I write, no matter what happens it won’t apply to everyone.

In contrast, the way I worded this blog is meant to tie in to my message with the fact that in arguing points, sometimes one side or both sides put each other down and that’s what it’s all in relation to, I also feel the terms I used are key points that are easy to remember, positive and can be taken away from this.




It’s about the don’t fight fire with fire, not the examples I have given
I have only used very few examples in this blog, and not addressing one issue doesn’t make me ignorant to it (Don’t worry I’m not saying you called me that aha) nor does it mean that it isn’t any less important, but these are the situations that I chose to use, I can’t appease everyone with my words, but I know that not everyone fits into these tiny boxes that society throws at everyone.


And no worries about the whole message thing, I think the way I worded it is the way I could relate if I were to read it, I think I wouldn’t derive the same points that you did because we’re all different in the way we think, I looked through my blog when editing it down and I didn’t see it in that way.
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MayuriYandere
09/12/2014 11:48 am
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Since this is going to go nowhere and it's pretty pointless beause I've got a fever of 106°F and I don't want to waste the small ammount of strength I have left  arguing pointlessly. I think we should just agree to dissagree. This blog should help people who are very offensive/racist/sexist/etc as a starting point but I don't think it's a blog to get people incredibly involved in the SJ movement.
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ByeFelicia
09/12/2014 4:11 pm
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If you have a 106°F fever and you're spending your time arguing cisgender/SJ movement opinions on the internet, I'm afraid your sense of prioritization is pretty distorted.
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Hifey
09/12/2014 4:04 pm
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I hope you feel better, and I'd rather call it discussion than argument aha. This blog wasn't really ever intended for the SJ movement, this is for those who completely miss the point of a balanced discussion in their blogs ect :P
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The_Big_Dish
09/12/2014 9:07 am
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Well they didn't clarrify what they meant, maybe just wait to see what they say first before assuming anything.
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