Just had a conversation on minecraft forums that has made me think of another side to this. Flame wars and the ability to accept a little constructive criticism!

Zombieman2081

luigi_vampaNo, it's not about a Minecraft 2!

I can't help but wonder what the younger generation of script kiddies is going to grow up into. Is the world due for an influx of Java apps when you all pull your heads out of MC? Has Mojang doomed the planet to bunch of fools that think griefing, etc is an acceptable way of behaving?
What is the outcome after MC has blown over?
Any thoughts you lovely people?

Personally I don't. I mean, people will always act stupid online. If you went up to them or knew them in real life, it would be hard to tell that they are a griefer/troller. I think the bigger problem would be the language being provided through these games, but that's just my opinion.

Language being provided?

10Andrew

luigi_vampa

Has Mojang doomed the planet to bunch of fools that think griefing is an acceptable way of behaving?

I don't think that will happen. Minecraft is not going to lead to a load of kids becoming arsonists, murderers and terrorists!

Bedside's, it's bad enough when people say GTA causes that so to think Minecraft of all games would is simply ridiculous.

Now the idea of a load of people who have learned Java simply for the purpose of modding Minecraft is a more realistic issue. Their will be an influx in the amount of people who seek to program with Java and in turn raise the competition. This may seem good but if their are a lot of applicants and only a few opportunities then people will have to move on to other things and waste their talents...

Then again... that's life

Cause no, contribute? I'm not so sure.

luigi_vampaNo, it's not about a Minecraft 2!

I can't help but wonder what the younger generation of script kiddies is going to grow up into. Is the world due for an influx of Java apps when you all pull your heads out of MC? Has Mojang doomed the planet to bunch of fools that think griefing, etc is an acceptable way of behaving?
What is the outcome after MC has blown over?
Any thoughts you lovely people?

Personally I don't. I mean, people will always act stupid online. If you went up to them or knew them in real life, it would be hard to tell that they are a griefer/troller. I think the bigger problem would be the language being provided through these games, but that's just my opinion.

luigi_vampa

Has Mojang doomed the planet to bunch of fools that think griefing is an acceptable way of behaving?

I don't think that will happen. Minecraft is not going to lead to a load of kids becoming arsonists, murderers and terrorists!

Bedside's, it's bad enough when people say GTA causes that so to think Minecraft of all games would is simply ridiculous.

Now the idea of a load of people who have learned Java simply for the purpose of modding Minecraft is a more realistic issue. Their will be an influx in the amount of people who seek to program with Java and in turn raise the competition. This may seem good but if their are a lot of applicants and only a few opportunities then people will have to move on to other things and waste their talents...

Then again... that's life

I have made long lasting friends on minecraft, while I feel unaccepted in real life. But some people use it more as a dating site.. But anyways I write stories on minecraft and share them.

Hope that helped!

YaminiaI'm just a dumb teen who dislikes people though, so what do I know?

No less than the rest of us I'd imagine.

Not really. Minecraft saved me from going insane by letting my friend and me hang out, build and have fun. I'd probably be healthier if I hadn't, but it's not Minecraft's fault it's addicting as heck. As for "script kiddies" (I kinda hate that term, not sure why.), I personally feel that their lives will probably be a bit more impatient, maybe a bit more demanding if they aren't parented right.
I'm just a dumb teen who dislikes people though, so what do I know?

Regazrding Video Games and Violence

I think parenting (or the lack thereof) has more to do with children's behavior than video games. I do however believe that the media we view does affect us.

My kids both play the CoD series on XBox. We have the entire series, some of which came out before my daughter was even born. My kids are 12 and 8, and they aren't going around re-enacting the games with their friends. My daughter gets regular "student of the week" and "student of the month" awards. She's involved in multiple sports, and couldn't be sweeter. My son is a techie through and through with an addiction to amusement parks (like me). He's quiet, respectful, and caring. There are no signs of any "trouble" in my kids from playing the CoD series. Yes, we play with the sound on, and yes, I know there isn't great language throughout... but it's not what they hear on screen, it's what they're taught from their parents that matter. They never, and I mean NEVER say anything inappropriate. They never, and I mean NEVER misbehave around family, adult friends, or their own friends. To us, CoD is just a good form of entertainment to kill some time on rainy days and through the winter.

Don't make a correlation between violent games and violence in society... Societal violence is so much more complex than a few video games. I played Ivan Ironman Stewart's Super Offroad when I was little... I didn't start to ram into other cars on the road. I played Wolfenstein 3D when I was a teenager. I don't go around with weapons trying to kill people. It's what we're raised to be...not what we see in the games.

Charliecho

luigi_vampaNo, it's not about a Minecraft 2!

I can't help but wonder what the younger generation of script kiddies is going to grow up into. Is the world due for an influx of Java apps when you all pull your heads out of MC? Has Mojang doomed the planet to bunch of fools that think griefing, etc is an acceptable way of behaving?
What is the outcome after MC has blown over?
Any thoughts you lovely people?

No. There are people who are stupid and do stuff in real life that they do in video games or see on TV or in movies. But the majority of humanity is smart or at least as good common sense. It's part of nature. We just have to deal with the occasional idiot. Now I have a "joke" saying, "when you go on the internet, you're instantly surrounded by stupid". Well, that's not true and I know that (though I say it anyway). The reason I say it anyway is because the stupid things stand out more. I'll stop here before I go too off topic.

I like the saying. Not sure about instantly but I've been to 4chan. I mean wtf?!!!!
I also like Voltaire's saying "Common sense isn't so common"

to op:

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this is why parents are scared to let their kids play cod

Why don't kids see rated M nowadays why do parents not see it

A) If you're scared of your kid playing COD and then going out and buying an assault rifle with the intention to kill, be sure to tell the child that the game is fake, and make sure that the child has absolutely 0 access to weapons. Ingrain your child with the mindset that violence is bad.

B) If you think FPS games screw with children's heads, don't expose your child to them. If it's not your kid, it's not your choice. Get over it.

C) If you think guns kill people, buy a handgun and put it on your roof for a day. For every person it kills, make a tally mark on your driveway with chalk. At the end of the day, remove the gun from the roof and admire your squeaky clean driveway.

(Mod, I encourage you to snip subpoint C if it's not topical)

luigi_vampa... would a stint of solid griefing make a bad person worse?

It's possible.

That being said, this also isn't exclusive to video games. Murderers might murder a few people more than usual and decide they want to murder increasingly more people. Bullies might bully someone more or go further than normal and decide to escalate.

I just had a debate with my mom about this the other day. We were talking about whether games such as Call of Duty were bad for kids, I disagreed and she was in the middle. She brought up that young kids may think that they can come back to life, as if it's a game, or it's okay to kill. My opinion on this, it's hardly the game's fault. Why? Because if anyone believes that is true, there's something wrong with their psychological state, or something, however in any case that would be a good point to take the war games away. For example, look at that recent case (can't quite remember exactly what/when it was) of those two girls who plotted murder to see Slenderman. Is it the fault of some people online who made Slenderman a thing? No, of course not. It's their own fault, they obviously have something up with their minds. Parenting as well, has a lot, if not most, to do with this.

Just my stance on the effect of war-themed games on kids.

luigi_vampaNo, it's not about a Minecraft 2!

I can't help but wonder what the younger generation of script kiddies is going to grow up into. Is the world due for an influx of Java apps when you all pull your heads out of MC? Has Mojang doomed the planet to bunch of fools that think griefing, etc is an acceptable way of behaving?
What is the outcome after MC has blown over?
Any thoughts you lovely people?

No. There are people who are stupid and do stuff in real life that they do in video games or see on TV or in movies. But the majority of humanity is smart or at least as good common sense. It's part of nature. We just have to deal with the occasional idiot. Now I have a "joke" saying, "when you go on the internet, you're instantly surrounded by stupid". Well, that's not true and I know that (though I say it anyway). The reason I say it anyway is because the stupid things stand out more. I'll stop here before I go too off topic.

In my opinion MineCraft can make kids more creative and having better thinking skills but i don't think griefing someone's sand castle will affect their future as adults

This kind of behavior begins well before children begin gaming. It begins with how parents instill morals and beliefs in their children at a young age. Mojang has done nothing and gaming has done nothing. Gaming doesn't make you a horrible person. The way you're parented or not parented does.

That's just like saying Call of Duty and BF4 will ruin kids. (Which it does)

It depends on how you play Minecraft pretty much.

nope, no ideas...